Comments on: Community matters. http://polytikus.com/2007/08/10/community-matters/ . . . on what divides and unites the nation. Mon, 08 Sep 2008 07:16:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Hazri http://polytikus.com/2007/08/10/community-matters/#comment-2127 Hazri Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:05:38 +0000 http://polytikus.com/2007/08/10/community-matters/#comment-2127 Aris Oziar pointed out the fact that Malaysia doesn't recognise the 1951 Geneva Convention on Refugees but I think the Convention itself is problematic as it only confines refugee status to those deprived of their civil and political rights alone thereby excluding this status to others e.g. those whose economic and social rights have been violated. Aris Oziar pointed out the fact that Malaysia doesn’t recognise the 1951 Geneva Convention on Refugees but I think the Convention itself is problematic as it only confines refugee status to those deprived of their civil and political rights alone thereby excluding this status to others e.g. those whose economic and social rights have been violated.

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By: I salute thee, Namewee. : Bolehland http://polytikus.com/2007/08/10/community-matters/#comment-2048 I salute thee, Namewee. : Bolehland Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:49:03 +0000 http://polytikus.com/2007/08/10/community-matters/#comment-2048 [...] a previous blog post I mention her parodied the national anthem. I take that back, he sampled the national anthem. The [...] […] a previous blog post I mention her parodied the national anthem. I take that back, he sampled the national anthem. The […]

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By: polytikus http://polytikus.com/2007/08/10/community-matters/#comment-2030 polytikus Sat, 11 Aug 2007 11:18:09 +0000 http://polytikus.com/2007/08/10/community-matters/#comment-2030 anonymous: thanks for the comment but i disagree with you. the only reason why people feel insulted is because the government in the past 50 years have done little to unite us as malaysians but rather compartmentalised into racial stereotypes. multi-racial? are we the only country that's multiracial in this world? we are most certainly not. does umno exercise caution when condemning jews? they are also another 'race' what and as asians who are supposedly more polite and hospitable - how can we still vote for umno and BN? we cannot be hypocrites. the govt and the rakyat even must take it as good as they give it. criticisms and dialogue is key to nation-building, sadly all that has been done so far in building anything is a wasteland where races are divided, religious bigotry reigns supreme, corruption, unequal wealth distribution, zero environmental conservation - and if the people can get their panties in a twist over a parody of the national anthem, then we have a long way to go. wee, to me, by making a silly rap song to highlight a serious social issue is a hell lot more patriotic than most others who choose to keep quiet and let the country rot in its divisiveness. anonymous: thanks for the comment but i disagree with you. the only reason why people feel insulted is because the government in the past 50 years have done little to unite us as malaysians but rather compartmentalised into racial stereotypes. multi-racial? are we the only country that’s multiracial in this world? we are most certainly not.

does umno exercise caution when condemning jews? they are also another ‘race’ what and as asians who are supposedly more polite and hospitable - how can we still vote for umno and BN? we cannot be hypocrites. the govt and the rakyat even must take it as good as they give it.

criticisms and dialogue is key to nation-building, sadly all that has been done so far in building anything is a wasteland where races are divided, religious bigotry reigns supreme, corruption, unequal wealth distribution, zero environmental conservation - and if the people can get their panties in a twist over a parody of the national anthem, then we have a long way to go.

wee, to me, by making a silly rap song to highlight a serious social issue is a hell lot more patriotic than most others who choose to keep quiet and let the country rot in its divisiveness.

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By: meldee http://polytikus.com/2007/08/10/community-matters/#comment-2029 meldee Sat, 11 Aug 2007 05:11:09 +0000 http://polytikus.com/2007/08/10/community-matters/#comment-2029 bravo, tikus. i am in full agreement--btw everything that causes discontent to any party IS seditious. it's just sad how too many factions have completely blown things out of proportion. everyone seems to be missing the point that he's just stating his opinion, not the opinion of society as a collective. bravo, tikus. i am in full agreement–btw everything that causes discontent to any party IS seditious.

it’s just sad how too many factions have completely blown things out of proportion. everyone seems to be missing the point that he’s just stating his opinion, not the opinion of society as a collective.

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By: anonymouse http://polytikus.com/2007/08/10/community-matters/#comment-2025 anonymouse Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:56:06 +0000 http://polytikus.com/2007/08/10/community-matters/#comment-2025 actually, the milk thing and the indian kids part might not be too stupid. i know many malays and chinese who suffer from lactose intolerance from drinking milk. indians consume many dairy based products like the paneer (cottage cheese), lassi and we use milk alot in our cooking. plus most of us grew up drinking fresh milk daily. so maybe its not so stupid. as for namewee, well he could have used a popular malaysian patriotic song to parody. i agree with most of what he had to say, but the negaraku should be considered sacred just like our jalur gemilang. sure we can laugh at ourselves but dont you think perhaps free speech even when its meant to be funny be used responsibly. this is a nation of 27 thousand people, some are educated and esposed to many things like you for instance, but many are still very much like a frog under coconut shell. so need to consider all that before anyone parodies anything. imagine this, in an extended family situation, a joke is made lets say about some of the family members' habits... maybe most can accept the joke, but some could not and they got hurt. so arent we careful to not hurt our family members feelings. we live in a multi-racial country... so saying indian girls smell like coconuts might be acceptable to some but one or two may get hurt la... so some amount of caution needed... sorry la.. me rambling.. its late actually, the milk thing and the indian kids part might not be too stupid. i know many malays and chinese who suffer from lactose intolerance from drinking milk. indians consume many dairy based products like the paneer (cottage cheese), lassi and we use milk alot in our cooking. plus most of us grew up drinking fresh milk daily. so maybe its not so stupid.

as for namewee, well he could have used a popular malaysian patriotic song to parody. i agree with most of what he had to say, but the negaraku should be considered sacred just like our jalur gemilang. sure we can laugh at ourselves but dont you think perhaps free speech even when its meant to be funny be used responsibly. this is a nation of 27 thousand people, some are educated and esposed to many things like you for instance, but many are still very much like a frog under coconut shell. so need to consider all that before anyone parodies anything.

imagine this, in an extended family situation, a joke is made lets say about some of the family members’ habits… maybe most can accept the joke, but some could not and they got hurt. so arent we careful to not hurt our family members feelings.

we live in a multi-racial country… so saying indian girls smell like coconuts might be acceptable to some but one or two may get hurt la… so some amount of caution needed…

sorry la.. me rambling.. its late

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By: howsy http://polytikus.com/2007/08/10/community-matters/#comment-2024 howsy Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:18:40 +0000 http://polytikus.com/2007/08/10/community-matters/#comment-2024 OMG! What is happening to this part of the world? With all due respect, a car that old pun ada orang curi kar? Fuhlamak! OMG! What is happening to this part of the world? With all due respect, a car that old pun ada orang curi kar? Fuhlamak!

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By: tikusfan http://polytikus.com/2007/08/10/community-matters/#comment-2023 tikusfan Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:41:13 +0000 http://polytikus.com/2007/08/10/community-matters/#comment-2023 hey tikus! great post.. too much stupidity to list. :P go have a great weekend, oh there is a cat show i'm going to at matrade this saturday-sunday. u should check it out! oops maybe the tikus is afraid of the kucing?? hey tikus!

great post.. too much stupidity to list. :P

go have a great weekend, oh there is a cat show i’m going to at matrade this saturday-sunday. u should check it out! oops maybe the tikus is afraid of the kucing??

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By: Kamikaze http://polytikus.com/2007/08/10/community-matters/#comment-2022 Kamikaze Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:28:08 +0000 http://polytikus.com/2007/08/10/community-matters/#comment-2022 What Wee expressed in the Negarakuku is forthright and true, depicting what can be commonly seen in Malaysia. When things happen, besides arguing yes or no, or right or wrong, we should look deeper into why these things happened. In this case, why he mocked the national anthem. Don't deny the fact that the so-called Bumiputeras and non-Bumiputeras are being treated differently. One of the NEP's objective is to reduce the wealth gap between the rich and the poor. But the NEP has been abused and in some occasions it helps to make those "previllaged" and yet rich ones become much richer. What is the point giving special discount to those rich Bumiputera who buy luxurious properties that priced above RM 1 million... There are abuses of NEP, plenty unfairness, and regulations that restricted certain contracts could be awarded only to the Bumiputeras, etc... These have greatly impaired the competitiveness of our country and efficiency of governemnt sectors... Most of the Malaysian, including the not-so-rich Bumiputeras are paying hefty price for that... Are most of the Malaysians not suffering from weak purchasing power? It is so sad that Graduates, including the professionals find themselves struggling in making the ends meet... How to survive in a high living cost city like KL with a mere salary of RM 2000? Protection never works but competition if we want to advance and be more competitive... One good example here: MAS was in the red before AirAsia came into business... With competition from AirAsia, and less favourable situations like chepaer air ticket and higher fuel price, MAS managed to turn around the business from loss making to profit making! Back to our dear Wee... Maybe it was just a way to vent out some of the frustrations... Like it or not, there are plenty who agree with Wee's thoughts and even think that the publication of this song will actually help the country to change for a better Malaysia... What Wee expressed in the Negarakuku is forthright and true, depicting what can be commonly seen in Malaysia.

When things happen, besides arguing yes or no, or right or wrong, we should look deeper into why these things happened. In this case, why he mocked the national anthem.

Don’t deny the fact that the so-called Bumiputeras and non-Bumiputeras are being treated differently. One of the NEP’s objective is to reduce the wealth gap between the rich and the poor. But the NEP has been abused and in some occasions it helps to make those “previllaged” and yet rich ones become much richer. What is the point giving special discount to those rich Bumiputera who buy luxurious properties that priced above RM 1 million…

There are abuses of NEP, plenty unfairness, and regulations that restricted certain contracts could be awarded only to the Bumiputeras, etc… These have greatly impaired the competitiveness of our country and efficiency of governemnt sectors… Most of the Malaysian, including the not-so-rich Bumiputeras are paying hefty price for that… Are most of the Malaysians not suffering from weak purchasing power? It is so sad that Graduates, including the professionals find themselves struggling in making the ends meet… How to survive in a high living cost city like KL with a mere salary of RM 2000?

Protection never works but competition if we want to advance and be more competitive… One good example here: MAS was in the red before AirAsia came into business… With competition from AirAsia, and less favourable situations like chepaer air ticket and higher fuel price, MAS managed to turn around the business from loss making to profit making!

Back to our dear Wee… Maybe it was just a way to vent out some of the frustrations…

Like it or not, there are plenty who agree with Wee’s thoughts and even think that the publication of this song will actually help the country to change for a better Malaysia…

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By: snowflakes http://polytikus.com/2007/08/10/community-matters/#comment-2021 snowflakes Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:30:27 +0000 http://polytikus.com/2007/08/10/community-matters/#comment-2021 Extradict Wee lah if necessary. He’s only benefitting the Taiwanese if he’s there. Might as well come home so I can belanja him kopi. hahahaha!! ...you are so funny lar... :) Extradict Wee lah if necessary. He’s only benefitting the Taiwanese if he’s there. Might as well come home so I can belanja him kopi.

hahahaha!! …you are so funny lar… :)

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